Just wanted to say thank you very much for this article. I have been dealing with a toxic friend for some time, and this article really helped put put her behavior in perspective numbers 5, 8, 11 and 12 ring especially true for her. I have gone back and referenced this article a few times as as reminder to myself on how to view the situation. She has said some really unkind things to me that I have been trying to work through, but it has been very difficult to not take her words to heart.
We also share many mutual friends, so that makes the situation a little more complicated. Do you have any advice on how to handle hurtful comments? I want to be the bigger person and not lash out at her, but it is very difficult to not respond back to her in an equally hurtful way. Thank you again for such a great article! You sound as though you are doing an amazing job of managing the relationship.
I know how difficult that is. Hope it helps. Hurtful comments? Depending on if she is a psycopath or not- yes that- if you ask her nicely to stop she will only go harder and get friends to join in. If she gets friends to join in, diffuse the situation with a funny comment. Say ok who is next to get hurt? Lets go nasty friend , who is it?
And by the way you do know this game you are playing also allows us to embarrass, humiliate and hurt you- and be prepared to follow thru. If u dont you will be her doormat to poo on until you die or never speak to her again.
Just do it- at least for your own sanity. All the besr. I sent her multiple texts back to her over a period of a few days and not one single response. What is going on with that? The important thing to remember is that people only do what works. It sounds as though your friend can be guaranteed of a response when she contacts you. Each time you respond, you reinforce to her that she can get her need met by sending you a request for help.
Hope this helps you to make sense of things. I was involved in a toxic relationship for almost 11 years. I loved this man with everything. He manipulated me every chance he got. I joined a car club and that was the ultimate betrayal. I loved those people and my car more than him. Well he allowed his mother and ex wife to do things to me and woukd not stopped them or at least say something to them.
His thing was you are doing that club stuff, so my ex can call. He never said that outright but he woukd insinuate it with actions. My final straw, I told him where his mom and his ex could go…. It has been 5 months and he cut all contact and is seeing someone. The person he is seeing has managed to be one mutual friends with my friends on face book and she also has joined my car club supporter page. Doing the beginning of the break up I admit I became obsessed snd out of control.
Constantly calling him, texting him, and going by his house. I had to go into a mental health facility foe PTSD.. I am still recovering and I am still tearful when I think about it. I am hurt as to how he manipulated me and now everyone thinks I am the toxic person in the relationship, how do I move forward with my life?
Will this pain sibside will I ever feel better? Absolutely you will. Here is some information that might help you about what happens to your body during a breakup. Understand that sometimes the only way people can move forward is to completely cut contact.
I know how much this is hurting you, but in time you will be grateful that he is getting out of your way so you can find the life and love you deserve. Be kind to yourself and know that you will stop hurting in time, but the time takes time. You will get through this. Light and love to you. I get the ideas of stash money, build support network, seek counseling.
I have been doing all the things that are supposedly my network of help, if I just reach out and ask for it. I even hear this crap from the few people I love and trust. Blah blah. She gave me multiple phone nos to call, websites to visit, etc.
Otherwise, leave a message. I did that. With legal aid, crisis counseling, disability app process, blah blah blah. On legal aid websites, I saw the backlog of cases. One was a woman who was being physically assaulted, and had children. She was on the waiting list. I met with my family doctor, told him what was going on, worst doctor visit of my life.
His response was to give me s and scripts for mood enhancement, calm me down. I met with a crisis counselor at their secret, high-security, gated compound. I have recently had major surgery that has obliterated my ability to work, care for the house and our animals, forget any fun stuff in life, no hobbies, no eating out, no jaunts with friends. All anxiety and stress and drama and worry about money. While he sleeps like a baby.
Not real abuse. She advised me to write in a little journal my little feelings, And call her back to talk it out. Oh, and take some of my emergency money, get one of my friends, and go do something fun for awhile, no serious stuff. Go eat lunch, or catch a movie. Have fun. I have been winding my way thru disability system, dealing with failing parents, ailing animals, as well thru all this. Applied and was approved for a hospital charity program to help me get treatment and meds etc, went thru 1.
Good luck. Signed up for and approved for psych counseling both physical and medical ongoing treatment necessary for disability case, as well. Attended group session prescribed by screener. Our activities? Coloring mandalas and going over homework pages to work on our emotional control levels. And doing all of the above and more, under the worry that he will find my papers about my comings and goings to get help for myself, knowing full well that if he does see something, it will mean I have outed his behavior to someone of authority, especially our doctor and to law enforcement, that it will be considered by him an open declaration of war, and he will work tirelessly, night and damn day to make every moment of my existence,and that of our animals, just as miserable and soul-sucking as possible.
I am most certainly, utterly, in every way, stuck. Those people that say you are never stuck, you can get out if you really want to. Excuse me if I call bs on that, live in one hell, or trade it for another. At least under my roof I have shelter and air conditioning, for the moment.
Gone gone gone. And the first platitude I get, I will wad it up into a ball and throw it at you. The real truth is that some of us may be stuck in Pergatory forever. As long as I have living beings that I care for, I will never consider offing myself. After that? I feel quite solid in telling you that it might be game over. But I promise, I vow, I will send out letters he will rue for eternity. I might be gone, but for once, I will have the last word, not him. I hear you. There are so many things to be considered when leaving a toxic partner, and I have no doubt that if you thought there was a way out you would have found it.
I want you to know that I get it. I wish things could be different for you. You clearly have incredible strength, courage and resilience to be able to stay and take care of the animals who need you. You sound like an amazingly strong, wise woman, and I hope you are able to own that for yourself.
Gata…Hey I felt your comment deep within my soul. Gotta mention this trade must have been brokered by the toxic mug I speak of, because I can relate completely when you said trade one hell for another You left off commenting on how do you leave? Or saying, that you believed you are indeed stuck in your situation. Well only you know to what degree your bullshytn right, and I mean as far as what has your fear, and bring afraid robbed you of? As well as all the nasty damage done to us on multiple levels while in that relationship.
So blah blah blah right. You were clear, organized, insightful, aware, directed, and passionate in you telling your story. Ya dig? I dont know entirely what you deal with, or for that matter…too much about toxic folks. But I feel certainly inside my soul seat, that you my dear are a fighter.
Seems like your in a pretty big fight now chic. Get to it. He is the 25 yr. Nor can your quite charming spirit remain in tact, or thrive, and better yet help another person through these dark times if you stick around. Just my opinion , not that you asked and it wasnt my place to say that really but…I DID. And if you stick it out you gotta get at me and share your best practices.
Has he always been mean to you or is it just since he lost his job? If it is just since losing his job, he may feel bad about himself and is taking that out on you. If it is just since losing his job that he has been acting this way, try talking to him keeping your voice calm and being kind and understanding of his situation. If this was going on prior to losing his job and it is a long-term issue then maybe consider seeking advice from a legal professional or organisation who understands these situations.
Maybe time apart will help. But most importantly, look after yourself and stay safe. You can start over. I know it may seem hard but you can do it. If you feel that leaving properly is unsafe or too much, maybe consider visiting some friends a few hours away for a week to get a break.
I think the advice to get out of the house with friends is good as it gives you a break from stuff at home. We all need a break from stuff at times. Even going for a coffee with friends can help clear your head. If there is a support group nearby, join it. It seems like both your husband and you have your own stuff going on him with his job and you with your recent surgery so maybe some space by going out for a few hours for a coffee or whatever will do you good.
It can be difficult when a partner leaves a job as you end up almost spending too much time together. If he is frustrated with his job situation and he takes it out on you when you are in a fragile place due to recent surgery, it can be hard. Try talking about it with him. But obviously if you feel your life is in danger then get out and seek help though. Look after yourself and please stay safe and make sure a friend or two are there if you do leave even if just for a holiday :.
My own husband of 40 years, started getting, for lack of a better word, miserable and snotty with me and others, including our kids, a while back. I did put up with it for a bit, but then wham! He got a talking to and an admonition that he could just leave if he wanted to stalk about and pout about nothing much at all.
That did work in my case, because essentially he is a good man. Gata, I am sorry that with everything else going on in your life, the pets, the disability and you never said how serious or long term it might be? I can see how bitter you are about how your life is unfolding and the lack of help you are getting.
Take some little bites. Contact an animal rescue group. I know they can give you comfort, I have pets, but…. If you have siblings, you have to insist that they help your parents until you are back on your feet. This is not a platitude, these are practical, real suggestions; instead of depending on social organizations where you do not fit into their little box! And establish your very own credit while you are working…..
I was right where you are AND I was being physically abused as well. I was even homeless for a while with this man!! It was the most insane, depressing and rock bottom situation that I could have ever thought I would be in! I never experienced that kind of lifestyle and I hope to never again!! I stayed stuck and in constant fear and pain mentally, emotionally and physically for eight long years. I saw no way out! What I did have was myself and my goals. Despite all the setbacks, the abuse, the sabotages, the insecurities, the fear, the unknown, etc.
I am happy to say that ever so slowly and dealing with even more difficulties along the way I have since found my way out. I am on my own and building two businesses at the moment. You WILL have to sacrifice and face your fears!
It is doable though and I did it!! I just want to say I hear you. And it can even be very subtle, more than they say in this article. I have been dealing with a masterfully toxic person for 30 years. But maybe one day a way will appear. Miracles happen.
I believe it will take a network of real friends. Physical abuse is not the worst torture one can endure. The shifting ground of a person who undermines your independence and self worth is the worst. Life is good. May you find the means the means you need to make changes. Please know that others are out here who understand.
Blessings, peace and prayers to you. I did it. You have to just make a plan and leave. What would you expect all those other people to say? If you cant move in with a friend or a relative then save money, get your name on apt. Once when I was very young and once older the hardest.
My first husband was toxic and I am a rescuer, nurse, caretaker type, so I offered to help my dad when mom died and found out he was the most needy, self centered, narcissist, controller I have ever met! I lasted 5 years and then I had to make a plan to get the heck out of Dodge! Just do it.
I have read your post and although I can understand what you are going through will not bore you with my experiences and divorce , so on. However I do disagree with your view. It sounds like you can be rather quick witted and a doer, so I am puzzled as to why do you chose to be passive in your relationship? If you wish to see a change , do something differently, or indeed start over. It is never too late. Sometimes tough love is the better way, because we all have to deal with what life throws at us.
I do hope your circumstances changed in the past few months, do let us know how you got on. All the best. I did reply about 10 mins ago please let me know later today if you received it I did send BD card to sister today as it is her birthday… She ignored mine last week I did wish her well and asked her to please email me and perhaps we could talk I will probably not hear from her This happens about every five years and she drops out of sight until someone is ill I feel this is a control issue and she knows myself and older sibling are upset by these actions Her initial anger came from me stating that I was not willing to wait for hours for her to come for a visit… She lives 1 hour away and is ALWAYS late Yes, two years later I would still say the same thing as I am sick of waiting for so long and I end up not even wanting to visit with her.
Be aware of the 3, narcissists and one step beyond, known as Narcissistic Personality Disorder can be dangerous if you try to leave them or go against their wishes. In some cases, deadly. Good luck and be really careful!
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Would appreciate any input on this. Thanks, Isabelle Reply. Reply It sounds as though you have fought really hard to make this relationship work. Reply Thank you for the advice and reply. Reply She is probably doing you a favor. Reply Toxic people need control above all else. Reply I am in a toxic relationship right now all the things you mentioned are him to the T! I just pray it will get better Reply.
Gata: are you ok? Worried for you Reply. Reply It sounds as though you have been having an awful time with this. Reply This is why toxic people are so damaging. Reply Yes — it would be hard to avoid conflict in this mix. Reply Yes, everybody does some of the things on the list from time to time.
Reply You are acting with grace, strength and courage. Reply The important thing to remember is that people only do what works. You are dealing with someone who is only considering their needs…not yours…RUN! Reply 11 years is a long time, so it will take a while for you to find a new normal — but you will.
Reply I hear you. Reply Gata…Hey I felt your comment deep within my soul. Take out life insurance on him and rescue a rabid racoon and lock them both in the bathroom. Lol Reply. Reply I did reply about 10 mins ago please let me know later today if you received it I did send BD card to sister today as it is her birthday… She ignored mine last week I did wish her well and asked her to please email me and perhaps we could talk I will probably not hear from her This happens about every five years and she drops out of sight until someone is ill I feel this is a control issue and she knows myself and older sibling are upset by these actions Her initial anger came from me stating that I was not willing to wait for hours for her to come for a visit… She lives 1 hour away and is ALWAYS late Yes, two years later I would still say the same thing as I am sick of waiting for so long and I end up not even wanting to visit with her Reply.
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Follow Hey Sigmund on Instagram. View Cart Checkout Continue Shopping. Pin It on Pinterest. No one else will actually talk about changing the structure of Washington, D. KK : But changing the structure of Washington, D. How long has it been since the United States has passed a new amendment? Yeah, but I think the question in the United States is going to be, and the presidential election is a huge question is, what is the issue in the United States?
What is the issue? Climate and failed government. And the question I would ask you guys is who really wants to change Washington, D. I have spent a decade running props and building grass-roots organizations, taking on the companies who I believe actually get their way in Washington, D. Why would you not go that route before trying to take on the highest office —. I think I say completely different things, I think completely differently.
KK : Well, we actually have a lot of questions about the economy. Aisha, do you want to kick us off? Aisha Harris : Yes. Thanks, Tom. Pitch me as to why I should trust you to be our president. I completely agree. The question is, what are we going to do to make it work for the people of the United States?
AH : How would you — What specifically would you do? I need details. The first question is, I come at it in a bunch of different ways. I would undo the Republican tax cuts for high-income individuals and for big corporations.
We have 40 years of data. We also have the returns in terms of investment by corporations to see whether in fact the claim that if they cut those taxes, there would be more investment. The first question is about taxes. I think that the way that we do taxes is unequitable, but it goes across the board, and those are just two specific examples.
The second question is about how, what we think what prosperity is in the United States, and it specifically relates to you. My opinion is the way that the United States is going to be prosperous is for you to prosper. What does that mean? I think they start with food. Your success is success for everybody in the United States, and we should take that attitude.
BS: Can you drill down on the same column here? We had a front-page story this morning about how school reform in the United States has not narrowed the achievement gap between America and the leading countries in Europe and Asia. What is your idea about K- 12?
Money is necessary but not sufficient in terms of education. I think we all know that. If you go to the red states and look at states where Republicans control the legislature and the governorship, they always start by cutting taxes and the second thing they do is cut education.
My opinion about education is simple. Do we require more money? Yes, we do. Is that enough? Absolutely not. But I think we have to treat teachers differently. They did increase the money across administrations over a period of time. BS : Actually, what they di d, as a person who paid some attention to this, one of the differences between us and a place like Finland or a place like Shanghai, they expect a lot more of teachers. In Finland in particular, the teacher training is a lot more rigorous.
Teacher training is terrible here. But my point is do we need more money? We need to treat teachers differently. The question is, what do you think the role of a teacher is? How significant in society do you think it is? We pay teachers poorly, some places incredibly poorly. The training is insufficient, and in addition, ongoing education is different. I think if you look at the places that crush it from an educational standpoint around the world, teachers are viewed as the stewards of the future.
We are clearly not doing that and we are not seeing that way. Paul Volcker once asked the Nobel laureate William Sharpe what the rise of finance in the late 20th century had contributed to overall economic growth. To figure out on a micro basis what is worth investing in.
If you look at the United States of America and think about how we do money allocation in this society. So, I actually had a chance to talk to Bill Sharpe. I think that capital allocation in this society actually turns out to be critical. They did central planning by people in a room figuring out where to put capital and where to do things, and they totally failed, and the United States of America has huge issues in terms of fairness, it has huge issues in terms of what values are promoted.
I believe that the financial system does not have the rules it needs. So we started a community bank that is from zero to over a billion dollars, designed for economic justice, environmental sustainability, and to support businesses owned by women and people of color. I definitely agree that there are gigantic holes and unfairnesses and discrimination in our financial system. But in terms of do I think that the skillful and professional allocation of capital in this society is a critical function for growth?
Binyamin Appelbaum : By the eve of the financial crisis, more than 40 percent of profits in this economy were being earned by the financial industry. Is that excessive in your view? BA: Some of that was you, right? Some of that was Farallon, which was ——. You know what?
BA : I understand that, but do you think that the profits you were earning were excessive? Do you think that the role of the financial industry has become distorted in the economy? But do I think that professional, skillful capital allocation is critical to a growing society? BA : At Farallon, you also benefited from the current tax system. In , Farallon sent a letter to investors telling them it would use an offshore company to shelter some of their gains from taxation.
Could you please explain why you did that and what role you think such tax shelters should play? Look … do nothing. Do I agree with those laws? You can take a look at my taxes and see what I do. Those are the laws of the United States. Do I think they should be changed? Sure, I do. Could you talk a little bit about whether you think other people should be able to invest in private prisons?
Do you think that that was a mistake that you did it or that should be a function of government? When I made that decision — when we looked at it, the only question in my mind is whether this is a decent thing to do before.
The question was this theory that it would be a more efficient service privately delivering high quality, more. Literally giving prisoners better service. That was whatever it was, 14 years ago. I made that decision when this was not a big issue, when I was not running for anything, because I thought it was wrong and it was a mistake.
And have I lived in that society and participated in that society and run my life according to the rules? Sure I have. My point is those rules should change, not just for me, but for everybody. BA : How is that different than expecting Exxon to take the lead on solving climate change? Why would we trust them to do that? I have a history of doing this. If you look at the people in the race, the person in this race who has done by far the most on climate is me. The person who knows the most about it and has actually accomplished things in it and spent time and effort and money making sure it happens is actually me.
I think what I said is that it allocates capital efficiency, but it has gigantic — the rules that control it are wrong. Look, if you look at the mortgage crisis, you can see gigantic fraud, short term, and an absolute inability to control itself. So do I believe the financial industry should be running without the rules from government?
Do I think that the rules should be different? Yes, I do. NF : There were rules. There were laws that were violated. And since then people who have tried to change the rules [unintelligble] if not broken, bent. Look, one of the things I said was I believe corporations have bought this government. There is no industry that has its hooks more into our government than the financial industry. If you ask me when I look back at , one of the overwhelming facts is that nobody was criminally prosecuted.
Look, I think all— The people who were making those teaser mortgages were clearly taking advantage of people. Did they have a piece of paper that on Page 68 laid out all the risks? Did anyone get to Page 68? And so do I believe that they were playing on the financial inexperience and lack of education of Americans across the board?
Do I think that they were telling the truth? Do I think they were breaking the law? Yes, I do think they were breaking the law. Like JPMorgan Chase. And do I think that it would completely change behavior if people in corporations were criminally prosecuted? Completely change behavior. And do you think unions need to be stronger in this country?
I do think they need to be much stronger. My attitude is working. People have been screwed for 40 years. NF : And your earlier investments in companies that fought unions vehemently? Look, when we were in. And the reason I left was I needed to make a clean break with what I saw was a system that was off the rails.
You were asking me earlier, what do I think about capitalism? I agree. KK : I want to ask you actually about a different broken system. You have called for the decriminalization of the border. This policy is opposed by the vast majority of Americans. With so many other immigration issues to tackle, why focus on that one?
I think I focused on different things. I think I focused on how we treat people who are seeking asylum. To me the biggest question is what about the 11 to 13 million people who live here without papers and who have no legal status?
And where the government has done nothing about that for, what is it? Thirty-five years? MG : Do you believe that Michael Bloomberg is a credible candidate for president? I have said publicly that Mike should come out for a wealth tax; anybody who wants to be a representative of the Democratic Party has got to be dealing with inequality, has got to not just acknowledge it, but be talking about it in terms of not just incumbent, in terms of wealth and assets.
And … if he is, then he has. I read his apology on stop-and-frisk. It was on the front page of The New York Times. JB : Speaking of Mr. Bloomberg, he spent the better part of the last decade, like you, focusing on climate change. He put a lot of money behind the Beyond Coal campaign and arguably was responsible for the closing of several dozen, perhaps scores, of coal plants.
How has your climate campaign been more effective than his? First of all, I like the Beyond Coal campaign. I think that is a good campaign. Also pushed to end fossil fuel expansion, whether it be pipelines or fossil fuel plants, including natural gas plants. So we pushed for a bunch of things that include public transportation to replace cars in addition to E. I think people like to think about generation. The basic goal is clean up generation, electrify everything and do energy efficiency.
So clean up generation is first. MG : Fair enough. Turning to a slightly different subject. And can they? The person who is going to become president is the person who gets the most votes. I think that. And I think that lastly, in terms of growth of this country, the answer to your question is — and we — look, NextGen is the biggest youth voter organizer. No one tells the truth.
No one deals with my issues. Why would I participate? The real question for the United States is how capable, how much capability, how much productivity are we building into our country on a personal and commercial basis? AH : Do you feel, though, like you are energizing the youth vote?
And how do you do that? So look, we … have done this. Do I think that. I believe will be even more so. The year-olds? Do you see yourself connecting with those year-olds who ——. And in some case tried to correct what you had seen as a problem. You are, I think, the single biggest donor to progressive causes. Now, getting big money out of politics was a big issue for Democrats in the midterms.
Why are you the right person for people to trust to handle this sort of issue? If you look at , NextGen organized the registration of 1. So that was young people, African-Americans and Latinos, low-income communities. Because we said this system is not representative because these people are not participating at the same level as other people.
What is a proposition? I am pushing for broader democracy and power to the people. And do I trust the people and do I think that they make good decisions? NF : Do you think that is, though, the experience of California with direct democracy, because there seems to be one group of rich people fighting another group of rich people often.
And if you go back and look, take a look at where all of the increase in taxes has come. Seriously, we were bankrupt, right? We were paying people in scrip. I mean, I know that it was a recession, but we were bankrupt. Prop They raised taxes on the ballot. BS : The great-great-grandfather of all this? Is it not possible to see Proposition 13 as the prima facie evidence of the sort of bankruptcy of the proposition idea?
It was definitely a terrible idea. You know the so-called split role. So do I think. There … others that I would argue are almost. BS : We ask this question to everybody. Look, in my opinion, if I am in fact the candidate, whoever I would want as a running mate is someone with a completely different background from mine to make sure.
MC : What factors would you look at? Are you talking geography, ideology? Look, my opinion is that, take a look at our staff. Take a look. KK : We want to ask you some more policy-related questions. Jeneen, do you want to kick us off?
I want to actually circle back to immigration really quickly. During the L. JI : You said that you would increase oversight of health care access for L. Let me put it to you more broadly. Can you talk a bit about what you would do to improve the health and safety of asylum seekers? JI: Of course. How would you go about doing that? What steps would you take as president to increase, just specifically, the health and safety of asylum seekers?
Because presumably anything we come up with for broad immigration reform is going to take quite a while. And in the meantime there are many people being detained at the border in really just inhumane conditions. So what steps would you take to improve ——. So what ends up happening for asylum seekers is they come here, they are treated very harshly and then released to whoever in the worst possible way.
Everyone has a right to seek asylum in the United States of America. The first thing we should do is process this much, much faster. We have people who are waiting … an incredibly long period of time to be. They literally are released onto the street at midnight with no money and no place to go. And ——. I see in my home state of California that nonprofit organizations are stepping in to do what the federal government should be doing, which is making their transition to the United States while they wait for their case to be adjudicated.
I would do the role that the A. I think that the organizations, the departments that are in fact dealing unfairly with them. We have departments that are rogue departments that are dealing with immigration and asylum seekers in a way that is intentionally inhumane.
And obviously we have to change that. And obviously we have to actually treat them humanely and get them, do everything we can to get them settled safely in United States. But we also need to have these cases handled much more quickly. If you asked me … should I hire a lot more judges and have this.
They have legal rights, we have legal obligations. We also have human rights. You guys are all Americans, I presume. They are actually committing crimes against humanity in your name. KK : We have actually a lot of health care questions for you, but I want to make sure we get to foreign policy. So Alex, do you mind kicking us up on foreign policy, and maybe we can come back if we have extra time?
Alex Kingsbury : Sure. I want to sort of ask you about foreign policy and the military, just to see sort of how you would approach things differently than the Trump administration. You can talk about ending the war in Afghanistan. The Trump administration [says it] is negotiating with the Taliban and seeming to kick the existing Afghan government to the wind if they reach a deal with. We tried to get something done and then we stayed and we stayed and we stayed because that is always going to be true.
So the question of Afghanistan is what exactly are we trying to do? James Dao : And is that wrong? I mean, what should our role in Afghanistan be? Should it be to not be there at all or should it be there? I think if we had a choice, if we could not be in Afghanistan right now, we would not be in Afghanistan right now. Or if we were there, would it be part, honest to God, of an international coalition that was there for a peacekeeping mission?
We have. The question is, do we leave tomorrow or what? And the alternative is to stay forever. I think that in fact when we leave there is going to be a lot of conflict. And so we can either accept that as truth and deal with it and try and minimize it and try and do everything we can or we can stay forever. Those were our choices. AK : Just a real quick question about the footprint of the U.
Navy is that unilateral force keeping over straits around the world so that shipping can go on specifically of oil. The U. Navy is the reach of the United States around the world to a large extent. AK : Should it get bigger? Should it get smaller? Is it appropriately small?
America first. We just compete with people. We have no allies. We have no allegiances. We have no values. In fact, you look at — you can start with climate change. So the question is, how are we going to transition to a different world?
The question is, how are we going to deal with that and how are we going to be a leader of coalitions based on values? Look, I was talking to a ——.
The habit of eliminating excuses is a difficult one to master, and only begins to take form through relentless struggle. Excuses can only be labeled as such when we venture past them and are able to look back at what tried stopping our pursuit of improvement. An important perspective this article adopts is one which values actions more than beliefs when it comes to excuses.
Though changing blatantly incorrect beliefs is rather easy and advisable, the path of less resistance to eliminating the negative effects of excuses seems to depend on stripping the power of those excuse-filled beliefs to affect measurable action. A primary reason for that is the often factual complexity that excuses are infused with in real-world scenarios. The first thing you should do is to expect excuses from all, rather than assume they operate with the same mindset as yourself.
Strangers and friends use excuses to save their soul from struggle above all else. The nature of excuses is enticing, as the desire to not do something can be wrapped in valid, logical, reasoning. Excuses are a short-term vehicle of happiness — they bring with them immediate satisfaction at the expense of something greater down the line.
Understand that excuses which can be worked past rather than adhered to hurt the people who abide by them. In an empathetic way, view excuses as a self-destructive habit rather than a plot against working hard and going through struggle. Your desire to help another person rid themselves of the excuses they tell themselves first depends on gaining their trust in the matter.
Ask them them why they think how they think. People will have theories, reasons, and perceived evidence backing the excuses which they tell themselves. In order to effectively debunk their excuses, you should make it a priority to first empathetically understand what their excuses are rooted in. Your overarching goal is not to blatantly deny and reject all excuses that an individual tells themselves.
That approach is too rigid to be understood and adhered to by them. Your goal, is to illuminate a window of hope in an otherwise excuse-filled room. It is thereby important for you to acknowledge when a person is correct in the reasons they mention for them not being able to do something. For example, a person blaming genetics on their inability to build muscle can most certainly be right about some of the factors at play.
However, far too often an excuse like that demotivates people from trying to attain as much benefit from physical exercise as they can. Your goal in that specific scenario, would be to first understand their reasons , agree with what you actually agree with, then show this individual the holes in their thinking. In order to do that effectively, they should trust you to be aligned with them in how you think about their particular issue.
In their mind, an excuse is the final act, rather than a barrier to overcome. They view excuses as the end to any proposition, and perceive there to be logical reasons behind that perception. Understand that these people need help rather than anguish for speaking with excuses riddling their reason.
With this in mind, you will not be surprised, ensuring a clear head for the following steps. For example, an individual may be obviously disabled and get into a habit of using that excuse as a reason for their lack of desire to look for work.
R ecognize that everyone, even you, makes excuses. No one is immune from the desire to protect self-esteem. Be tolerant of those who make excuses to you. Catching someone in a phony excuse shouldn't be an excuse for you to launch into a tirade. People who fear your reaction are not going to confide in you about why they can't or didn't do something. If they feel their behavior will be accepted they will be less likely to come up with the excuse in the first place.
Getting mad is the worst way to deal with a phony excuse. Help the excuse-maker save face. If it's when people feel threatened that they make up excuses, then by respecting their need for self-esteem, you can cut down on the phony excuse-making in the first place. In general, you can put people's excuse-making tendencies to work by fostering self-directed motivational strategies.
Help shore up their self-determination, and those excuses won't stand in the way of your relationship's future. Schlenker, B. The triangle model of responsibility. Psychological Review, , Thacher, T. Selective defensiveness or nondefensiveness: How does relative autonomy relate to excuse-making when goal pursuits do not succeed?. Motivation And Emotion, 36 3 , So, when ppl constantly make pre excuses for why they can't be there on an important day, surgery, infusion etc.
We are supposed to worry about their feelings? Why not just accept that that person has no ability to be there for you and cut them out. My spouse sleeps until noon every day. Does not work and will not look for work. Will not help in any substantive way. Sits on games nonstop and encourages our child to do the same. The excuse is "I'm cranky - you know that so let me be. Forget "saving face" - this is plain laziness, nothing more and nothing less. I get that the liars excuse makers might have a deeper problem but, after years of what's arguably abuse, it does not matter.
Significant others who have an excuse for everything are users and, at some point, there is no reason -- and it is no especially helpful -- to consider their gaslighting than anything besides what it is. This is like arguing "consider why they're hitting you; maybe you deserve it.
End of conversation. This article is nothing but pure blame shifting to the person that has suffered the offense. No wonder everything in the world is so turned on its head when you have "professionals" giving advice like this. Personal responsibility is now regarded as a virus. I've had people offer to work with me with something regarding a school thing One person said he had no excuse.
He just didn't help without telling me why Also, I have notice that so-called "christians" are the biggest liars when it comes to excuses. They will say crap like God says you aren't supposed to make promises and that then think that will absolve them. How does this set of instructions help? Now I have a person that is more comfortable making excuses than he was before.
Today he blamed bad training which he never showed up for as the cause for getting his employer up at dawn to help him recover a real estate deal. Not everyone who turns 18 automatically has the physical or mental health to "walk away. I am not covering up for pathetic excuse making. I call them out on it and if they do not like they can go pound sand. If you cannot be honest with yourself, why would I think you would be honest with others.
You know this enabling behavior is Unacceptable, Especially pushing it as a new normal. I'd suggest taking this Article down as every comment is in disagreement of your advice. Like others here, I think I was looking for different solutions. You briefly touched upon it when you mentioned "different goals". My husband does not accept responsibilities for any of his failings, even little ones that are almost ridiculous to make an excuse for. This behavior leads to mistrust and distancing. In fact, I believe "distancing" is exactly what he wants because he wants to have complete autonomy over his life and does not really share many of the goals that I have for us.
I seem to live beside him but not with him. He eagerly seeks my attention when it is a project he is interested in, but is less inclined when I initiate one of my own. Which, sadly, includes being a father to his children. Beside, not with. Me or the kids. He's not a bad person but as you get to know him and live with him this is something you must accept on a deep level. Luckily, we all push these things down and move forward because we all know that searching for perfection will get you nowhere.
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It is thereby important for you to acknowledge when a person is correct in the reasons they mention for them not being able to do something. For example, a person blaming genetics on their inability to build muscle can most certainly be right about some of the factors at play. However, far too often an excuse like that demotivates people from trying to attain as much benefit from physical exercise as they can. Your goal in that specific scenario, would be to first understand their reasons , agree with what you actually agree with, then show this individual the holes in their thinking.
In order to do that effectively, they should trust you to be aligned with them in how you think about their particular issue. In their mind, an excuse is the final act, rather than a barrier to overcome. They view excuses as the end to any proposition, and perceive there to be logical reasons behind that perception.
Understand that these people need help rather than anguish for speaking with excuses riddling their reason. With this in mind, you will not be surprised, ensuring a clear head for the following steps. For example, an individual may be obviously disabled and get into a habit of using that excuse as a reason for their lack of desire to look for work.
That sensitive domain to navigate will be difficult if you were to not acknowledge the validity of the cause of that excuse. Especially on excuses which are rooted in complicated reasoning, the approach of nitpicking their research, reasoning, and logic behind the cause of their excuse is often futile and difficult. For excuses in which the logical structures can be debunked, you should prioritize your act of debunking them by how much negative effect is caused.
A decision to debunk an excuse is easier to execute when you operate in a helpful manner, rather than one which attempts to show off your experience or knowledge. Know which excuses are worth falsifying with factual evidence, and which painless excuses can be left to ferment. When you do find proof against whichever excuses come your way from others , present it in a way which is not demeaning or hurtful to the person.
Remember, you have to keep their naivety toward the facts of the matter in mind. Examples of proof can include showing someone that working out every day is possible even with the busiest of schedules, or that the timeline at work is in fact a reasonable one breaking down all the tasks and reverse engineering estimated times for each.
You will need to become good at narrowing down to specific causes of excuses on your journey to stopping the faulty ones. As best you could, try to lay down the evidence for your subject to follow toward a realization you aim for them to end up on, rather than forcing facts into their understanding without allowing them to own their discoveries themselves.
Once both of you have an understanding of what is possible — thereby contradicting the causes of the excuses you were presented with — begin to explore the reasons why these excuses were thought of in the first place. As you serve to dissolve their naivety toward the facts of the matter at hand, they will be perceptive to a desire to improve their mental strength going forward. Find reasons for why they came up with the excuses that they did.
Realize the role that not recognizing the full picture played in their premature decision to believe an invalid excuse. The key to eliminating future excuses seems to be the elimination of the habits that drive the formation of those excuses. Then, take a step further and work with them to eliminate the habits which led them to believing those falsehoods. Though the debunking of an excuse can limit its specific repetition in the future, to disregard the habits at play entices other excuses to form in other areas of life.
A successful debunking of an excuse presents an opportunity for the individual to learn the driving forces behind their adherence to that excuse. Your partner may claim that you never mentioned the need to take the garbage out, so that's why it's still sitting there under the sink. Think back and reflect on whether you were as clear with your instructions as you thought you were. Understand where the excuse is coming from. It's also possible that they've made an honest mistake that they are now trying to cover up.
R ecognize that everyone, even you, makes excuses. No one is immune from the desire to protect self-esteem. Be tolerant of those who make excuses to you. Catching someone in a phony excuse shouldn't be an excuse for you to launch into a tirade. People who fear your reaction are not going to confide in you about why they can't or didn't do something.
If they feel their behavior will be accepted they will be less likely to come up with the excuse in the first place. Getting mad is the worst way to deal with a phony excuse. Help the excuse-maker save face. If it's when people feel threatened that they make up excuses, then by respecting their need for self-esteem, you can cut down on the phony excuse-making in the first place. In general, you can put people's excuse-making tendencies to work by fostering self-directed motivational strategies.
Help shore up their self-determination, and those excuses won't stand in the way of your relationship's future. Schlenker, B. The triangle model of responsibility. Psychological Review, , Thacher, T. Selective defensiveness or nondefensiveness: How does relative autonomy relate to excuse-making when goal pursuits do not succeed?. Motivation And Emotion, 36 3 , So, when ppl constantly make pre excuses for why they can't be there on an important day, surgery, infusion etc.
We are supposed to worry about their feelings? Why not just accept that that person has no ability to be there for you and cut them out. My spouse sleeps until noon every day. Does not work and will not look for work. Will not help in any substantive way. Sits on games nonstop and encourages our child to do the same. The excuse is "I'm cranky - you know that so let me be. Forget "saving face" - this is plain laziness, nothing more and nothing less.
I get that the liars excuse makers might have a deeper problem but, after years of what's arguably abuse, it does not matter. Significant others who have an excuse for everything are users and, at some point, there is no reason -- and it is no especially helpful -- to consider their gaslighting than anything besides what it is. This is like arguing "consider why they're hitting you; maybe you deserve it. End of conversation. This article is nothing but pure blame shifting to the person that has suffered the offense.
No wonder everything in the world is so turned on its head when you have "professionals" giving advice like this. Personal responsibility is now regarded as a virus. I've had people offer to work with me with something regarding a school thing One person said he had no excuse. He just didn't help without telling me why Also, I have notice that so-called "christians" are the biggest liars when it comes to excuses.
They will say crap like God says you aren't supposed to make promises and that then think that will absolve them. How does this set of instructions help? Now I have a person that is more comfortable making excuses than he was before. Today he blamed bad training which he never showed up for as the cause for getting his employer up at dawn to help him recover a real estate deal. Not everyone who turns 18 automatically has the physical or mental health to "walk away. I am not covering up for pathetic excuse making.
I call them out on it and if they do not like they can go pound sand. If you cannot be honest with yourself, why would I think you would be honest with others. You know this enabling behavior is Unacceptable, Especially pushing it as a new normal.
I'd suggest taking this Article down as every comment is in disagreement of your advice. Like others here, I think I was looking for different solutions. You briefly touched upon it when you mentioned "different goals". My husband does not accept responsibilities for any of his failings, even little ones that are almost ridiculous to make an excuse for.
This behavior leads to mistrust and distancing. In fact, I believe "distancing" is exactly what he wants because he wants to have complete autonomy over his life and does not really share many of the goals that I have for us. I seem to live beside him but not with him.
He eagerly seeks my attention when it is a project he is interested in, but is less inclined when I initiate one of my own. Which, sadly, includes being a father to his children.
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